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		<title>By: The Nuggets Don&#8217;t Deserve To Make Playoffs</title>
		<link>http://www.nobloodnofoul.com/2007/09/10/are-the-denver-nuggets-a-championship-team/comment-page-1/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>The Nuggets Don&#8217;t Deserve To Make Playoffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] They&#8217;re not playing defense (at least not consistently). Every game I see them take a play or a series of plays off - I&#8217;ve even seen them take entire quarters off. Not a game goes by that I don&#8217;t see the Nuggets fail to challenge a shooter. It&#8217;s sickening - all it takes is a little effort to run out and put a hand in someone&#8217;s face, yet no one moves. That&#8217;s the definition of bad perimeter defense. Local beat writers are finally starting to pick up on this - according to the Denver Post, the Nuggets win more games when they defend the 3pt line than when they don&#8217;t. Too bad I&#8217;ve been lambasting the Nuggets for this since before the season started. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] They&#8217;re not playing defense (at least not consistently). Every game I see them take a play or a series of plays off &#8211; I&#8217;ve even seen them take entire quarters off. Not a game goes by that I don&#8217;t see the Nuggets fail to challenge a shooter. It&#8217;s sickening &#8211; all it takes is a little effort to run out and put a hand in someone&#8217;s face, yet no one moves. That&#8217;s the definition of bad perimeter defense. Local beat writers are finally starting to pick up on this &#8211; according to the Denver Post, the Nuggets win more games when they defend the 3pt line than when they don&#8217;t. Too bad I&#8217;ve been lambasting the Nuggets for this since before the season started. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nuggets 1</title>
		<link>http://www.nobloodnofoul.com/2007/09/10/are-the-denver-nuggets-a-championship-team/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Nuggets 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nuggets playing down to their competition is another feature much more from last year, along with lazy and inept defending. But this year, the Nuggets already have 7 wins of 16 points or more: 

Fri Nov 9 Nuggets 118 WIZARDS 92
Mon Nov 12 NUGGETS 122 Cavaliers 100
Wed Nov 14 NUGGETS 110 Trailblazers 93
Sat Nov 17 NUGGETS 115 Knicks 83
Tue Nov 20 NUGGETS 112 Bulls 91
Fri Nov 30 NUGGETS 123 Clippers 107
Sun Dec 2 NUGGETS 115 Heat 89

And I didn&#039;t say the Nuggets are the 2nd best defense, I just said they are alot better than most people think, and much better than last year. (Will the Lord strike me down for defending George Karl?)

The points per 100 possession stat is the best single stat I know of to judge how good a defense is. But the Nuggets are not really 2nd, because they have played one of the weakest schedules in the NBA so far. So their points per 100 possessions number will be going up in the weeks ahead as the schedule becomes much tougher. 

The important thing will be what their number and rank is in April, heading into the playoffs.

Oh, and neither Melo nor A.I. are on the team for their defense. The Nugget&#039;s players who lead the much improved Denver defense are Marcus Camby, Kenyon Martin, Yakhouba Diawara, and Eduardo Najera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nuggets playing down to their competition is another feature much more from last year, along with lazy and inept defending. But this year, the Nuggets already have 7 wins of 16 points or more: </p>
<p>Fri Nov 9 Nuggets 118 WIZARDS 92<br />
Mon Nov 12 NUGGETS 122 Cavaliers 100<br />
Wed Nov 14 NUGGETS 110 Trailblazers 93<br />
Sat Nov 17 NUGGETS 115 Knicks 83<br />
Tue Nov 20 NUGGETS 112 Bulls 91<br />
Fri Nov 30 NUGGETS 123 Clippers 107<br />
Sun Dec 2 NUGGETS 115 Heat 89</p>
<p>And I didn&#8217;t say the Nuggets are the 2nd best defense, I just said they are alot better than most people think, and much better than last year. (Will the Lord strike me down for defending George Karl?)</p>
<p>The points per 100 possession stat is the best single stat I know of to judge how good a defense is. But the Nuggets are not really 2nd, because they have played one of the weakest schedules in the NBA so far. So their points per 100 possessions number will be going up in the weeks ahead as the schedule becomes much tougher. </p>
<p>The important thing will be what their number and rank is in April, heading into the playoffs.</p>
<p>Oh, and neither Melo nor A.I. are on the team for their defense. The Nugget&#8217;s players who lead the much improved Denver defense are Marcus Camby, Kenyon Martin, Yakhouba Diawara, and Eduardo Najera.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://www.nobloodnofoul.com/2007/09/10/are-the-denver-nuggets-a-championship-team/comment-page-1/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we&#039;re too dependent on statistics as fans. We like to look at raw stats, projected stats, +/-, P.E.R., points per possession, points scored per possession, etc. in order to see some sort of truth about the game.

They&#039;re all wonderful tools, and they all have their place.

However, I don&#039;t need to look at one statistic to know that AI takes a lot of chances when he plays defense. I don&#039;t know have to see Melo&#039;s +/- to know that he&#039;s a lazy defender. I don&#039;t need to look at the Nuggets defense per possession rating to know that they don&#039;t rotate very well, that they have a hard time keeping good guards out of the paint, or that they&#039;ve struggled defending some of the weakest teams in the league (Seattle, Minnesota, the Knicks, the Clips, etc.).

I just watch the games.

The Nuggets are an interesting team -- they seem to play right at or just about the level of their opponents. It&#039;s almost like they&#039;re toying with the weak teams &quot;just to keep it interesting&quot;. When they&#039;re consistently destroying the bad teams they play, I think they&#039;ll will have officially graduated from &quot;bad&quot; defense to &quot;average&quot;. Then, they&#039;ll need to develop better team defense, stop being lazy for quarters at a time, and focus on rotating and helping each other. Then they&#039;ll be &quot;good&quot;.

But to say that the Nuggets have the 2nd best defense in the league is nothing short of ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we&#8217;re too dependent on statistics as fans. We like to look at raw stats, projected stats, +/-, P.E.R., points per possession, points scored per possession, etc. in order to see some sort of truth about the game.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re all wonderful tools, and they all have their place.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t need to look at one statistic to know that AI takes a lot of chances when he plays defense. I don&#8217;t know have to see Melo&#8217;s +/- to know that he&#8217;s a lazy defender. I don&#8217;t need to look at the Nuggets defense per possession rating to know that they don&#8217;t rotate very well, that they have a hard time keeping good guards out of the paint, or that they&#8217;ve struggled defending some of the weakest teams in the league (Seattle, Minnesota, the Knicks, the Clips, etc.).</p>
<p>I just watch the games.</p>
<p>The Nuggets are an interesting team &#8212; they seem to play right at or just about the level of their opponents. It&#8217;s almost like they&#8217;re toying with the weak teams &#8220;just to keep it interesting&#8221;. When they&#8217;re consistently destroying the bad teams they play, I think they&#8217;ll will have officially graduated from &#8220;bad&#8221; defense to &#8220;average&#8221;. Then, they&#8217;ll need to develop better team defense, stop being lazy for quarters at a time, and focus on rotating and helping each other. Then they&#8217;ll be &#8220;good&#8221;.</p>
<p>But to say that the Nuggets have the 2nd best defense in the league is nothing short of ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Nuggets 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuggets 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to respond because, because the idea that the Nuggets can&#039;t beat the top teams because of their defense is now more wrong than ever. The up to the minute defense efficiency statistic, which is points allowed per 100 possessions, has the Nuggets 2nd in the NBA behind only the Boston Celtics. This is truly amazing and almost no one knows about this development. Even Nuggets fans are largely in the dark about it.

POINTS GIVEN UP PER 100 POSSESSIONS AS OF 12/12/07

1. Celtics 95.7
2. Nuggets 101.4
3. Magic 103.3
4. Hornets 103.7
5. Bulls 104.2
6. Hawks 104.6
7. 76&#039;ers 104.6
8. Rockets 104.8
9. Spurs 104.9
10. Pistons 104.9

30. Knicks 113.2

I never thought I would see the day when George Karl is getting a bum rap, but he now is to some extent from those who think the Nuggets don&#039;t try to defend, or don&#039;t defend well, or both. 

When the Nuggets lose to a good team, they break down offensively, but they still defend relatively well, and the total points scored is fewer than when the Nuggets win. The number 1 problem for the Nuggets right now is lack of consistency in general and set plays in particular on offense. This is most likely the reason for the extreme differences in scoring performances from players such as Marcus Camby, Linas Kleiza, and Eduardo Najera from game to game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to respond because, because the idea that the Nuggets can&#8217;t beat the top teams because of their defense is now more wrong than ever. The up to the minute defense efficiency statistic, which is points allowed per 100 possessions, has the Nuggets 2nd in the NBA behind only the Boston Celtics. This is truly amazing and almost no one knows about this development. Even Nuggets fans are largely in the dark about it.</p>
<p>POINTS GIVEN UP PER 100 POSSESSIONS AS OF 12/12/07</p>
<p>1. Celtics 95.7<br />
2. Nuggets 101.4<br />
3. Magic 103.3<br />
4. Hornets 103.7<br />
5. Bulls 104.2<br />
6. Hawks 104.6<br />
7. 76&#8242;ers 104.6<br />
8. Rockets 104.8<br />
9. Spurs 104.9<br />
10. Pistons 104.9</p>
<p>30. Knicks 113.2</p>
<p>I never thought I would see the day when George Karl is getting a bum rap, but he now is to some extent from those who think the Nuggets don&#8217;t try to defend, or don&#8217;t defend well, or both. </p>
<p>When the Nuggets lose to a good team, they break down offensively, but they still defend relatively well, and the total points scored is fewer than when the Nuggets win. The number 1 problem for the Nuggets right now is lack of consistency in general and set plays in particular on offense. This is most likely the reason for the extreme differences in scoring performances from players such as Marcus Camby, Linas Kleiza, and Eduardo Najera from game to game.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://www.nobloodnofoul.com/2007/09/10/are-the-denver-nuggets-a-championship-team/comment-page-1/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuggets1 -- it&#039;s funny you&#039;ve found that Corona&#039;s points are all correct, when the regular season has so far proven him completely wrong in his assertion that the Nugget&#039;s defense is good.

It&#039;s AWFUL. Look at the miserable defense in a variety of games (home and on the road), and you&#039;ll see a team that I like to call the &quot;Wizards of the West&quot; -- great offense, poor defense.

They are not a championship team as of right now -- maybe with an upgrade at point guard they&#039;ll have a chance, but the way they&#039;ve been playing it&#039;s a stretch to imagine them getting past the 1st round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuggets1 &#8212; it&#8217;s funny you&#8217;ve found that Corona&#8217;s points are all correct, when the regular season has so far proven him completely wrong in his assertion that the Nugget&#8217;s defense is good.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s AWFUL. Look at the miserable defense in a variety of games (home and on the road), and you&#8217;ll see a team that I like to call the &#8220;Wizards of the West&#8221; &#8212; great offense, poor defense.</p>
<p>They are not a championship team as of right now &#8212; maybe with an upgrade at point guard they&#8217;ll have a chance, but the way they&#8217;ve been playing it&#8217;s a stretch to imagine them getting past the 1st round.</p>
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		<title>By: Nuggets 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nuggets 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just looking through the google results for &quot;Denver Nuggets&quot; and found this down the way. As someone who spends a lot of time trying to determine what the Nuggets lack to be able to fully compete with teams like the Spurs and the Suns, I can say without a doubt that Corona is just about 100% correct in his responses to the original post. Corona is on point with regard to J.R. Smith, Melo, Nene, and George Karl. Blow off the +/- and the points per possession stats at your own peril, JL. Very nice job, Corona, especially on Karl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just looking through the google results for &#8220;Denver Nuggets&#8221; and found this down the way. As someone who spends a lot of time trying to determine what the Nuggets lack to be able to fully compete with teams like the Spurs and the Suns, I can say without a doubt that Corona is just about 100% correct in his responses to the original post. Corona is on point with regard to J.R. Smith, Melo, Nene, and George Karl. Blow off the +/- and the points per possession stats at your own peril, JL. Very nice job, Corona, especially on Karl.</p>
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